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immigration
December 3rd, 2006 § 10 comments
Re:Generate by Aaron Monts is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License.
I guess my only issue with the whole immigration and “illegal” alien thing, is simply that, it’s illegal. I dont like taxes, I dont like a lot of laws, but I am forced to live by them if I want to live in this country and not in jail. Is it fair? Honest? Right? No, not at all, but it is the law of the land. What part of illegal is not understood here? That’s what I dont get. I read that the city of Houston, which has more than 100k known illegals in the community, were told by the mayor and police chief to no longer prosecute for being “illegal” – Gees, can we then rob banks, steal food, etc, etc too? Will they look the other way on that “illegal” too?
I don’t look at any form of migration as legal or illegal. It boils down to private property rights — people can’t go anywhere unless they have somewhere to go. I feel that there is an inherent/God-given right to migrate as long as you are able to support your decision.
The US is founded on migration, and the country is better for it because it used to attract the best of the best of the world. Immigration is good for everyone — it keeps housing prices up, it allows production costs to fall for commodity services and items, and it produces a healthier environment of choice and demands to be met. This keeps more people employed.
The problem is not what an “illegal” migrant has done, the problem is that your government that you voted for love to throw all sorts of dollars and programs at everyone — dollars that cost you.
I welcome as many immigrants as can come, legally, illegally, etc. Because the Bible offers us the Kingdom life, those of us who are ready to walk that life should realize that the Kingdom has no borders and has no nations or States. As long as you continue to support the State, don’t be surprised that you aren’t aware of the Kingdom that exists here and now.
Let them come. If you want to stop the welfare-addicts from coming, stop public welfare and return that to the church, where it should exist.
We’re doing our year-end taxes now and in 2006 we’ll have spent over 58% of our money on government taxes and costs. That’s almost 60% of my money gone because of you voters — money that goes to who? Why? It isn’t the “crime” of immigration that is the problem — it is the crime of you guys voting my dollars out of my pocket; dollars I could focus on charity in my community for those who really need it.
Jason with your logic, civil rights activists shouldn’t of sat in the front of the bus because they were breaking the law. “An unjust law is no law at all.”
dada, you can stop paying taxes if you want to–but then i’ll insist that you stop driving on the roads that i pay for (you’ll have to walk to work–but not on the sidewalks i pay for); sending your children to the schools that i pay for; etc, etc, etc.
taxes do a whole lot more than i think we realize sometimes…
I am convinced that illegal immigration is not really the spiritual issue that some in the church are trying to make it. The fact is that it is horrible national policy to allow people to enter illegally into our country. It affects the crime rate. It drains our economy and resources. It ultimately makes us less safe.
I hear Christians trying to make this into a social justice issue, but actually you could look at illegal immigration as perpetuating social injustice. Employers can take advantage of illegals by paying them next to nothing and the illegals can’t complain because if they do they get deported. Meanwhile, corrupt socialist regimes in central America don’t have to change their oppressive systems as long as they can encourage malcontents to go to America and send most of their earnings back home.
I knew people would take this route…I am not arguing just, right, fair, or anything of the sort. I am simply saying illegal is illegal correct? If we dont like the law, then “sit in front of the bus” or in this case on the border and scream for the laws to be changed. I am not promoting any agenda or idea. I do agree the kingdom life should be available to all. All I am saying, is illegal means illegal. If you dont like a law, then do something about it, don’t break it. As I mentioned, I dont like a lot of laws, but I must follow them to live here. My only point is illegal means illegal. Not I dont like it so I will choose to not adhere to this law.
that’s a pretty interesting take on things rags… of course you’re flat out wrong, but an interesting take none the less. (actually i agree with what you’re saying.)
it’s amazing that often times we fail to completely flip the coin and see exactly what our policies or lackthereof actually perpetuate in our society. i think that illegal immigration is an important spiritual issue, but not from the side that says just let them come. it’s more so of protecting them and protecting everyone else. however, i’m not really sure that this problem will ever be solved.
p.s. ~ dada, no more using the police or fire departments either!
By the way, I hate the arguement that says–we are a country of immigrants so why should we have closed borders. I hate the argument for two reasons: First of all, most of us are not the offspring of illegal immigrants. Secondly (and this addresses the cartoon), did we mistreat the Indians? Yes. Did we “invade” their land? No, not really. That assumes that the Indians were a sovereign state with a highly developed sense of property ownership. Anyway, even if we did come here “illegally” on the Mayflower, that doesn’t mean that we should turn a blind eye to the issue today. We also allowed slavery in the past, does that mean that we should turn a blind eye to slavery today? What I’m saying is that times change, nations change. Illegal immigration (and China) is going to kill this country.
i hate to insert a fact into the midst of these opinions but the proportions of plymouth rock are way off. way.off.
be careful going down that road of “things change, nations change” rags. it’s not safe for Christians to admit that social norms change … some could take that argument and make a case for how we treat homosexuals and others who don’t fit the traditional/conservative mode.